August 29, 2019


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There’s a meme going around that seemingly everyone is hailing as fantastic advice: “Don’t take criticism from people you wouldn’t go to for advice.” Categorically, this is dumb. Subjectively this is dangerously stupid. Kevin and Matt talk about why you should be open criticism and how seeking different opinions allows you to grow as a creator and as a person.

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In this episode, we also dive into how perfectionism isn’t possible as a creator because problems constantly arise, includinng an all-night rotoscoping session to hide Kevin’s cowlick while he drinks toilet water.

Meanwhile, CAN WE SAVE KEVIN’S EYES?!?! Boomer Matt and Boomer Kevin talk about creator-specific health problems in a surprisingly riveting discussion on protecting your career assets.

Along the way, we talk about Kevin’s favorite commercial about children’s bones, long haul truckers as future YouTubers, the most boring Discord pitch, how comedians get better at stand-up, we remember some good advice from iJustine and Casey Neistat, and even get into Kurt Cobain and The Beatles.

🎧 And The Create Unknown gets a special outro song from Idea Baby Gang member, Basswaite. Listen to “Binary Max Escape” on iTunes and Soundcloud.

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  • Matt’s philosophical pizza story from Mumbai
  • Our favorite and most important albums

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Hosted by Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor

Executive Producer is Dave Keine

Theme by Mega Drive

Outro music by Basswaite

TV wall by Jonas Bers

Opening Animation by Kidmograph

City Animation by Eric Langlay

Makeup by Mo Lewit

Photography by Paula Lieber

“The Create Unknown” is produced by Unknown Media.

There’s a new dream job out there and it’s Creator. The allure of flexing your creative muscles in the limelight for a living is enticing young and old to jump on YouTube and start recording. But a lot can happen on the way to millions of subscribers.

In ‘The Create Unknown’ co-hosts Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor take time off from getting millions of views on the education YouTube channel Vsauce2 to reveal how dozens of dynamic creators have successfully navigated the ever-changing, uncertain landscape of online media — and how others have been swallowed by digital quicksand.

Through intensely personal conversations, listeners learn what it takes to not only survive but thrive as a creator and in life. Interviews cover everything from getting started as a YouTuber to how you land that first brand deal and the realities of being a digital influencer.

‘The Create Unknown’ is the ultimate behind-the-scenes YouTube podcast. New episodes come out every other Thursday.  Listen for free on your favorite podcast app and on YouTube.

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